Ilya Massukh’s reply (FID, ROI) to an open letter on the petition to cancel 187-ФЗ
Today on the portal of the Foundation for Information Democracy there appeared an official response to the open letter I published on Habré.
The answer to the open letter on the petition to cancel the 187-FZ
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Original appeal - habrahabr.ru/post/189652
Dear Artem!
Thank you for the letter and for the civil position. I will try to answer your questions in order:
1) Upon reaching the threshold of 100,000 votes, the initiative should be submitted to an expert working group indicating, among other things, information about those who voted for and against, about the distribution of votes among regions of Russia. If voting continues, such information ceases to be relevant immediately after the initiative is sent. Without doubting that all initiatives that have exceeded the threshold of 100,000 votes, or 5% of the population of a subject or municipality, have the potential to further collect votes, according to the current regulation of overcoming these thresholds, it is enough to consider the initiative in state bodies. It is also necessary to take into account the fact that when examining experts the experts will be guided by the initiative materials sent officially, and not by operational information from the resource. The initiative of which you are the author was transferred to the expert group on August 12, 2013.
2) On behalf of the operator of the ROI Foundation for Information Democracy, we did everything possible so that initiatives that received the support of 100,000 citizens were immediately sent to the expert group for consideration. In accordance with paragraph 24 of the Rules of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation N183 of March 4, 2013, the experts have 2 months to make a decision. The meeting of the expert working group will be held in early September 2013, and the decision will be promptly published on the website www.roi.ru.
3) Your desire to speak at a meeting of the expert working group to consider this initiative was reported to the Government of the Russian Federation.
Respectfully,
President of the Information Democracy Foundation
Massuh I.I.
So.
Under Clause 1 , I believe that this is an unsubscribe, which is essentially not answered, which prevents the petition from continuing to collect signatures even after reaching the threshold of 100 thousand votes. But, since the question has already been played, and further similar correspondence promises to be prolonged, then it most likely no longer makes sense to insist that the meter be working again.
According to paragraph 2 - most likely my joint, it was necessary to indicate the addressee including. and Mikhail Abyzov, as the leader of the expert group, which will consider the essence of our petition . In this matter, in fact, both PID and ROI and Massuh personally decide very little. And the statements of deputies have already appeared that our petition will most likely be considered at the end of August / beginning of September.
According to paragraph 3 - Ok! And this is thanks. It was not necessarily meant by my presence, but this petition must have its representative (s) at the expert group meeting of those who participated in the preparation and placement of the text of the petition ( RKS , PPR , IPA ).
Under paragraphs 2 and 3, I will again try to contact the members of the expert group directly.
By the way, here is its composition:
Abyzov M.A. - Minister of the Russian Federation (head of expert working group)
Brechalov A.V. - President of the All-Russian Public Organization of Small and Medium-Sized Business "OPORA RUSSIA" (as agreed)
Galushka A.S. - Co-Chairman of the All-Russian Public Organization “Business Russia” (as agreed)
Gattarov P.U. - Member of the Committee of the Council of the Federation on Science, Education, Culture and Information Policy (as agreed)
Davydov L.V. - Chairman of the Commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation on Regional Development and Federal Relations (by agreement)
Diskin I.E. - Chairman of the Commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation on the development of civil society and interaction with public chambers of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (as agreed)
Dobrynin K.E. - Deputy Chairman of the Committee of the Council of the Federation on constitutional legislation, legal and judicial issues, development of civil society (as agreed)
Yemelyanov M.V. - First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Economic Policy, Innovative Development and Entrepreneurship (as agreed)
Zheleznyak S.V. - Deputy Chairman of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation (as agreed)
Zubov I.N. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of the Interior of the Russian Federation
Ivanov A.Yu. - Deputy Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation
Ivanova S.V. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Regional Development of the Russian Federation
Ivliev G.P. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation
Katyrin S.N. - President of the Chamber of Commerce of the Russian Federation (as agreed)
Lokot A.E. - Member of the State Duma Committee on Federal Structure and Local Government Issues (by agreement)
Lyubimov, Yu.S. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Justice of the Russian Federation
Makovetskaya S.G. - Director of the Foundation "Center for Civic Analysis and Independent Studies" GRANI "(as agreed)
Nikitin G.S. - Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation
Nilov Ya.E. - Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Public Associations and Religious Organizations (by agreement)
Oslon A.A. - President of the All-Russian Public Foundation "Public Opinion" (as agreed)
Pavlov I.Yu. - Chairman of the Board of the Foundation "Institute for the Development of Freedom of Information" (as agreed)
Pligin V.N. - Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Constitutional Legislation and State Building (as agreed)
Ponomarev M.N. - Member of the Council of Federation Committee on Constitutional Legislation, Legal and Judicial Issues, Development of Civil Society (by agreement)
Pudov A.N. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation
Rapoport B.Ya. - Director of the Department of the Government of the Russian Federation on the formation of the system "Open Government"
Topoleva-Soldunova E.A. - Chairman of the Commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation on social policy, labor relations and the quality of life of citizens (as agreed)
Tretyak N.V. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation
Fomichev O.V. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation
Schlegel R.A. - Member of the State Duma Committee on Information Policy, Information Technologies and Communications (as agreed)
Shokhin A.N. - President of the All-Russian public organization "Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs" (as agreed)
Elkin G.I. - Head of the Federal Agency for Technical Regulation and Metrology
Yakovleva T.V. - Deputy Minister of Health of the Russian Federation
Yakovleva I.V. - Chairman of the Nonprofit Business Protection Partnership "Business Solidarity" (as agreed)
Yasin E.G. - Scientific Director of the Federal State Autonomous Educational Institution of Higher Professional Education “National Research University“ Higher School of Economics ”
Original reply to an open letter.
Original Resolution of the Government of the Russian Federation on the approval of the composition of the expert working group.
The answer to the open letter on the petition to cancel the 187-FZ
')
Original appeal - habrahabr.ru/post/189652
Dear Artem!
Thank you for the letter and for the civil position. I will try to answer your questions in order:
1) Upon reaching the threshold of 100,000 votes, the initiative should be submitted to an expert working group indicating, among other things, information about those who voted for and against, about the distribution of votes among regions of Russia. If voting continues, such information ceases to be relevant immediately after the initiative is sent. Without doubting that all initiatives that have exceeded the threshold of 100,000 votes, or 5% of the population of a subject or municipality, have the potential to further collect votes, according to the current regulation of overcoming these thresholds, it is enough to consider the initiative in state bodies. It is also necessary to take into account the fact that when examining experts the experts will be guided by the initiative materials sent officially, and not by operational information from the resource. The initiative of which you are the author was transferred to the expert group on August 12, 2013.
2) On behalf of the operator of the ROI Foundation for Information Democracy, we did everything possible so that initiatives that received the support of 100,000 citizens were immediately sent to the expert group for consideration. In accordance with paragraph 24 of the Rules of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation N183 of March 4, 2013, the experts have 2 months to make a decision. The meeting of the expert working group will be held in early September 2013, and the decision will be promptly published on the website www.roi.ru.
3) Your desire to speak at a meeting of the expert working group to consider this initiative was reported to the Government of the Russian Federation.
Respectfully,
President of the Information Democracy Foundation
Massuh I.I.
So.
Under Clause 1 , I believe that this is an unsubscribe, which is essentially not answered, which prevents the petition from continuing to collect signatures even after reaching the threshold of 100 thousand votes. But, since the question has already been played, and further similar correspondence promises to be prolonged, then it most likely no longer makes sense to insist that the meter be working again.
According to paragraph 2 - most likely my joint, it was necessary to indicate the addressee including. and Mikhail Abyzov, as the leader of the expert group, which will consider the essence of our petition . In this matter, in fact, both PID and ROI and Massuh personally decide very little. And the statements of deputies have already appeared that our petition will most likely be considered at the end of August / beginning of September.
According to paragraph 3 - Ok! And this is thanks. It was not necessarily meant by my presence, but this petition must have its representative (s) at the expert group meeting of those who participated in the preparation and placement of the text of the petition ( RKS , PPR , IPA ).
Under paragraphs 2 and 3, I will again try to contact the members of the expert group directly.
By the way, here is its composition:
Abyzov M.A. - Minister of the Russian Federation (head of expert working group)
Brechalov A.V. - President of the All-Russian Public Organization of Small and Medium-Sized Business "OPORA RUSSIA" (as agreed)
Galushka A.S. - Co-Chairman of the All-Russian Public Organization “Business Russia” (as agreed)
Gattarov P.U. - Member of the Committee of the Council of the Federation on Science, Education, Culture and Information Policy (as agreed)
Davydov L.V. - Chairman of the Commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation on Regional Development and Federal Relations (by agreement)
Diskin I.E. - Chairman of the Commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation on the development of civil society and interaction with public chambers of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (as agreed)
Dobrynin K.E. - Deputy Chairman of the Committee of the Council of the Federation on constitutional legislation, legal and judicial issues, development of civil society (as agreed)
Yemelyanov M.V. - First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Economic Policy, Innovative Development and Entrepreneurship (as agreed)
Zheleznyak S.V. - Deputy Chairman of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation (as agreed)
Zubov I.N. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of the Interior of the Russian Federation
Ivanov A.Yu. - Deputy Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation
Ivanova S.V. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Regional Development of the Russian Federation
Ivliev G.P. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation
Katyrin S.N. - President of the Chamber of Commerce of the Russian Federation (as agreed)
Lokot A.E. - Member of the State Duma Committee on Federal Structure and Local Government Issues (by agreement)
Lyubimov, Yu.S. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Justice of the Russian Federation
Makovetskaya S.G. - Director of the Foundation "Center for Civic Analysis and Independent Studies" GRANI "(as agreed)
Nikitin G.S. - Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation
Nilov Ya.E. - Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Public Associations and Religious Organizations (by agreement)
Oslon A.A. - President of the All-Russian Public Foundation "Public Opinion" (as agreed)
Pavlov I.Yu. - Chairman of the Board of the Foundation "Institute for the Development of Freedom of Information" (as agreed)
Pligin V.N. - Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Constitutional Legislation and State Building (as agreed)
Ponomarev M.N. - Member of the Council of Federation Committee on Constitutional Legislation, Legal and Judicial Issues, Development of Civil Society (by agreement)
Pudov A.N. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation
Rapoport B.Ya. - Director of the Department of the Government of the Russian Federation on the formation of the system "Open Government"
Topoleva-Soldunova E.A. - Chairman of the Commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation on social policy, labor relations and the quality of life of citizens (as agreed)
Tretyak N.V. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation
Fomichev O.V. - State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation
Schlegel R.A. - Member of the State Duma Committee on Information Policy, Information Technologies and Communications (as agreed)
Shokhin A.N. - President of the All-Russian public organization "Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs" (as agreed)
Elkin G.I. - Head of the Federal Agency for Technical Regulation and Metrology
Yakovleva T.V. - Deputy Minister of Health of the Russian Federation
Yakovleva I.V. - Chairman of the Nonprofit Business Protection Partnership "Business Solidarity" (as agreed)
Yasin E.G. - Scientific Director of the Federal State Autonomous Educational Institution of Higher Professional Education “National Research University“ Higher School of Economics ”
Original reply to an open letter.
Original Resolution of the Government of the Russian Federation on the approval of the composition of the expert working group.
Source: https://habr.com/ru/post/190600/
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